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I've never had detention.
Um...
Ooh, Braggart.
There's a fanboy out about it. I mean, yeah.
Yeah, exactly.
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Some ten-year-old.
That's probably it.
I'm not looking for this.
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Okay, well...
Rousing endorsement, okay.
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It's polluted. Everything's polluted.
Everything's polluted.
The kids are polluted.
Welcome to Does It Hold Up?
The podcast dedicated to potentially
ruining your childhood and all of your
fond memories that happened before, Mom and Dad
got divorced. I'm Braggart.
I'm Amanda.
And I'm Brad.
And we'd like to welcome everybody to
part two of Molly Ringwald May.
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For this episode, we will be
discussing
the breakfast club, which came out
when?
'85.
1985. So the year after 16 candles?
Yes.
Okay.
And really Molly Ringwald's
second big movie, right? With 16 candles
being her first. Yes. Okay.
We know we had a couple movies before 16 candles,
which we will get into later.
Wink, wink, nudge, nudge.
Um... but yeah, so
this was one that I saw many, many times
growing up, much like 16 candles.
And I remember liking
it a lot. So...
Same. Yeah. Yeah. How about you, Brad?
Yeah, I remember watching a bunch. I remember really liking it.
Yeah. Yeah.
So we're gonna...
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Is there anything else we need to...
Do we talk about anything in the beginning?
We do.
Yeah, shit at the end. Yeah.
I feel like I'm just doing most of the talking.
And I'm like, is there something else we're
supposed to be saying? I can't remember.
Okay. You're taking the lead on this one.
Apparently I am, so...
I mean, I know we're calling this
a Molly Ringwald movie, but I mean,
she's just part of it ensemble cast.
I mean, she's not the star, right?
That's true. She's not building this star,
but this is a memorable movie for her.
Yeah.
And I think it's just...
Yeah, I would agree with that. I don't even...
Well, 16 candles, I guess she's probably the star.
Well, she is. She's the title care.
I mean, yeah, I think she's the star in that one.
Yeah, that's true. This is more of an ensemble
with people who did other things
after 16 candles,
including the geek, which makes a return appearance.
Not as the geek, but...
Well, he's still kind of...
Well, he's not...
He's nowhere...
He is a geek, but he's not the...
The geek, yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, we've got...
So, it's got Molly Ringwald,
Judd Nelson, Emilio Estebes,
who all went on to do other things.
Obviously, Anthony Michael Hall,
Allie Sheedy,
they went on to do other things.
It's got the guy who was getting married
to Molly Ringwald's sister in 16 candles
as the janitor...
Carl.
And Paul Giesen, who was in other stuff
as the assistant principal.
And I can't think of anything else that he was in.
Neither.
Okay.
Anyway, so...
And I read all that off of Wikipedia.
So, since I'm already on Wikipedia,
let's get into the plot.
So...
Sorry.
I just...
I just sneezed.
That's right.
We're all real people here.
We sneezed everything.
I'm battling a cold.
He was in...
He was in trading places.
Remember that?
Yes.
He was...
What was his beaks?
He was the guy who went down...
He was there like...
Like, they're heavy, right?
Yeah, they're heavy.
Yeah, he went down and got the frozen concentrated orange juice
before.
Yeah.
I forgot about that.
Oh, that might be fun when they watch them, Dine.
I haven't seen that in a long time.
All right.
So, back to the Breakfast Club.
On Saturday, March 24th, 1984,
five students at the fictional Shermer High School
report at 7 a.m. for all day detention.
Each comes from a different click.
Claire Standish, the snob.
Brian Johnson, the geek.
Shit, they call him the geek.
Okay.
Andrew Clark, the jock.
John Bender, the punk.
And this is my favorite.
Allison Reynolds, the cooke.
Well, they don't that way.
They refer to them in the actual movie.
He is the brain in the letter he writes.
He calls themselves the brain.
Yeah.
The print starts the athlete, the brain, and the basket case.
Yeah.
So, Wikipedia couldn't even get that right.
Well, they get it right at the end because I guess they...
I'm looking at...
Yeah, I'm looking right now.
At the cast, at the cast down at the bottom,
they haven't listed, right?
But they don't have your...
Yeah, yeah.
Somebody just jumped in and had to get all creative at the beginning.
Yeah, I guess.
I mean, I never had detention.
Ooh, Braggart.
No, but...
I mean, did y'all ever...
Did they have to send you to Maryland for detention?
Yeah, right.
They didn't have that dollar.
Yeah.
You were in Delaware.
There was detention all the time.
Oh, nice, Brian.
It's not in Jersey, okay.
We can't get out.
We don't have to pay.
You don't have to pay to get out of it.
Yeah.
So did y'all have to have to go to the school on a Saturday?
I never personally heard of that before.
Never heard of that.
Did you have detention?
I had something one time.
It wasn't like...
There were three levels of detention.
There was in-school suspension, out-of-school suspension,
and something that was less the lease of those three.
And I don't remember what it was called.
Probably detention.
No, it was called detention.
No, it had an abbreviation similar.
I don't remember.
But in-school suspension would have been like for an entire day.
This other one was like, you had to go somewhere for a period or an hour or something like that.
I think I had that once for doing something stupid, but I never...
I never...
You know, the kind of thing where it's like I wanted to do it and I did it and I felt horrible immediately after doing it.
And I promised to never do it again and I never did it again because I was not good at being bad.
What about you, Red?
I had detention one time, which was just after school for like an hour because I forgot to get an interim report signed.
Oh, remember that?
I had gotten it signed by mom and dad, but I just left it at home.
And that wasn't good enough for them.
You gave detention for them?
Yeah, he was an asshole.
Sounds like it.
Was it like E or something stupid?
No, it was my English teacher sophomore year.
Oh, okay.
He had a rep there at Sanderson, so I'm not gonna, you know, whatever.
Yeah, listen to your own name names.
Yeah, but...
There's only two teachers in Delaware at school.
I get it.
So, but they didn't have...
The only thing I could think of that would be similar to what they do here is what Brock called ICE early, which was in school suspension, but they only had...
I don't think they had that at high school level.
They only had... I only remember in middle school.
And it used to be... Yeah, everybody would get it when they had a fight.
They got to a fight and then they would get it.
And basically they had to go sit in this room and do their work and they couldn't talk.
They couldn't do anything the whole day.
That's one thing that Amanda and I talked about watching this.
The fact that they're supposed to sit in this room for nine hours, not speak, not do homework, not get up unless told they can't...
What is it?
I don't think... I don't think I could sit like that for nine hours.
Well, my thing is, why does the... So, every Saturday, Vernon is there?
Apparently.
And Bender too, at least for the next two months.
Yeah.
So, this guy is pissed off at these kids, but then he's...
I'm confused.
Is he a teacher?
Is he a teacher or...?
He's an assistant principal according to Wikipedia.
Yeah, so I just... I never... I thought he was a teacher because he says at one point in the movie, he says,
not for 31 grand a year or something like that.
He's like, "I'm not going to..."
He started off as a teacher and then became the assistant principal.
I think he worked his way up.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
What a fucking miserable life he's going to spend every Saturday in there.
Maybe he gets paid extra for being there on Saturday.
Maybe, obviously, he doesn't have to show up if...
He gets a bonus for every kid that he...
Maybe but it made up seriously.
Maybe, you know, if nobody has suspension at Saturday, he doesn't have to come in.
Maybe he... not married.
Maybe he has nothing else to do.
Hell, I don't know.
I mean...
Okay.
Sure.
Much about that, Laura.
We'll have to dig into his backstories some more at some point.
That'll be an extended special episode.
Vernon's back story.
Yeah.
That's right.
Right.
That's the prequel to the breakfast club.
What made Vernon?
Yeah.
Yeah, for real.
That's a sensible Richard Vernon instructs them not to talk, move from their seats, or sleep until they are released at 4 p.m.
He assigns them a thousand word essay in which each of them must describe who you think you are, quote, who you think you are, unquote.
He leaves, returning only occasionally to check on.
John, who has an antagonistic relationship with Vernon, this is a nice way to put it, ignores the rules and riles up the other students by starting new antagon...
antagonistic relationships with them as well.
John spends most of his time humiliating Brian, bullying Andrew, harassing Claire, which I think that's a light way of putting in.
Yeah.
And even...
Listen.
But they all eventually feel sorry for him after seeing how he interacts with abusive adults like Vernon, who gave John eight weeks worth of additional detention and eventually locks him in a storage closet.
But he escapes and returns to the library.
Good Lord.
That's...
That's like the first hour of the movement.
Yeah.
That's a long sentence.
Yeah.
I think saying that he harasses Claire is putting it lightly.
I mean, sexually harasses her.
Sexually assaulted.
His relationship with Claire, I think, was the hardest part of the movie to get over.
Like, that, I think, was probably the part of the movie that if they redid it, wouldn't be the same.
Because not only is he just a total ass to her, like, there's the part where he's talking to her about are you a virgin?
And he kind of describes, like, being with a boy.
Like, he's in her.
Like, she looks scared.
And he's, like, you know, felt up over the bra.
You know, you know, just describing an interaction just way too graphically to her.
And he can see it's bothering her, so he keeps doing it.
And then, of course, the scene where he's under the desk and he sticks his head between her legs.
Right.
Probably the worst part of the whole movie.
Yeah.
He's just a dick. I mean, and then he ends up where in now.
Right.
So, you know, he stayed method.
Judd Nelson did during the, so he harassed Molly Ringwald offset off camera.
Yeah.
I wonder she cried so easily in the movie.
Probably real.
Yeah.
Well, that's the other thing.
That is what Molly Ringwald and Anthony Michael Hall were both 16.
Yes.
And Judd Nelson was 25.
So had significant more experience about, you know, being an adult and I think it showed.
Maybe that's why it works so well.
I don't know.
I think his character wouldn't be there.
He wouldn't show up on Saturday.
What are they going to do to him?
Yeah.
I mean, that's like he's such a fucking like, I just don't.
There's no way he would be there.
That's where I was like, I'm watching.
I'm like, hold on.
This guy wouldn't even show up and then there wouldn't be anything.
And then I mean, there's so many things in this movie that just wouldn't happen.
There's no way that Emilio Estes or Molly Ringwald, Claire or, or Anthony Michael Hall.
There's no way the three of them would at all like go roaming down the hallways with
Bender to get his weed or they would, they would just not engage him.
They would sit there and take their punishment because they have bigger things to worry about.
And they would move on from this there one day.
They would just sit there and take it.
Instead.
I think especially Anthony Michael Hall and Emilio Estes.
I mean, Molly Ringwald didn't seem to be in that much trouble from her dad when her dad
drops her off.
But I don't know.
There's no way Emilio Estes would ruin.
He talks about it.
He says, I'm not going to miss next Saturday's match wrestling match.
Yeah.
And then later.
I don't smoke marijuana.
Right.
Like I'm like watching like, there's no fucking way.
There's, this is like, I'm like, oh, it's just just dumb now.
This movie is dumb.
It's just, yeah, that's why right at that point, I'm like, that's where I had to turn it off.
And I watched it.
Like I said, before we start recording, I watched the last like 16, 18 minutes.
A few days later, because I just couldn't, I got so.
This movie, put me on a roller coaster at first.
I was like, okay, it's a pretty good portrayal of some of the characters.
I knew like kind of the people clicks that were in high school.
Okay.
Yeah.
But then at the same point, I'm like, no, these people, the, the, some of those people wouldn't
do any of the stuff that they're doing.
They're the way they would help vendor.
I mean, like this, it's just stupid.
They wouldn't.
I mean, I guess I could agree with that on some points.
I mean, overall, I enjoyed it.
I did not like.
I didn't like really studying how, I mean, I know why you did it.
I know that bender puts on this tough guy facade because he's got a shitty home life.
And he needs to be, you know, the rebel and all that stuff.
And he hates Claire because she's the opposite.
She's the princess.
He gets everything she wants.
And so he just, you know, lays into her from, from the get go.
And I mean, maybe also some weird sort of way because he kind of likes her, but he doesn't, you know, that's.
Yeah.
It falls into that trope of, well, falls into that trope of, oh, the guy likes you.
He'll pick on you, mate.
And then that and tell, you know, that like falls into that whole fucking bullshit.
And that's one of the things, and we'll, when we get near the end, that's beyond his harassing of her.
There's a something that happens at the end that I felt wouldn't have happened.
And we can get into that when we get there.
But I almost have to wonder if, again, we talked about this with 16 candles that John Hughes, you know, the party they go to is John Hughes's idea of a crazy party.
Yeah, is this John Hughes idea of a serious rebel in high school?
Well, I mean, Molly Ringwald wrote like an op ed for the New York Times.
Nice.
I mean, it was, yeah, I mean, she, uh, and one of the things that she's, you know, she was talking about the movies that she did with him and how she was bothered by some of it.
So that I actually to make sure I wrote it, like wrote this quote down, this quote, if I sound overly critical, it's only with hindsight.
Back then I was only vaguely aware of how inappropriate much of John's writing was given my limited experience and what was considered normal at the time.
That's the thing. In the eighties, this was normal and she's 16. Yeah.
All right. And she's got adults telling her what to do in Hollywood of all places. Yeah, which, you know, we found out in the last few years how much fun it was for women in Hollywood.
So wait, wait, you're trying to tell me that Molly Ringwald wrote an op ed that is basically what we're doing with this podcast for this month.
Basically, I didn't really know that I found the quote. I didn't really know that it was a much more general op ed. So maybe, maybe Molly Ringwald will become a fan because she's like, see, they get it.
So, all right. So we'll jump back into the, uh, the plot synopsis here.
Well, I do have a question. Like, I remember this being funny when I was a kid.
Did you guys laugh when you were watching this time?
Yeah, I did. I mean, because like 16 cans, I still laughed at some of the bits, even though I felt. Yeah, and I don't remember.
I mean, this movie and like benders got some funny bits.
Um, like the whole thing with the sushi, like not necessarily the tongue in your mouth, but just his reaction to sushi, because I had never eaten sushi in 1985 or whenever this movie came out.
Yeah, it was you. That's raw fish. And I felt that that was obviously not now because I eat sushi all the time. But I'm very little of his actually raw fish. That was, yeah, that was like a movie trope that was in the 80s, early 80s that wasn't an actual thing.
And that's all that sushi was was raw fish. Yeah, it wasn't. But, you know, we didn't know what it was. We had no way of finding out.
Yeah, I guess he, he, that is a good. I mean, he has a good look on his face when he's looking at that. But yeah, and his interaction with with Vernon with the very mental quote. That's pretty good.
Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, there's, there's some little bits where I would laugh like there's a part where there's smoke in marijuana and Anthony Michael Hall's doing the chick can't hold a smoke.
And then he high fives them and like makes them hit himself in the head with his own hand. And he falls over.
I mean, there's, there's some funny stuff and that's actually from a Richard Pryor stand up routine. Interesting. And then there's some other parts that are kind of funny, but in a different way, like the part where the janitor Carl is talking to Vernon.
And he's like, in Vernon's like, these are the kids that are going to take care of me when I get older and it scares the crap out of me and Carl's like, I wouldn't plan. I wouldn't count on it.
Right. I thought that was a really good line. Yeah. Are they thinking beer. Yes. They are. I couldn't tell. Yeah. I thought it was, but.
And I do have a question about that whole, I don't know. We can jump ahead to it. I guess what do I care. But when he's going through the files.
What's he, what are those files? He's trying to get dirt on people so that he knows their secrets and he can use it as almost like, almost like blackmail. Like, I know this about you. So you better.
Is he looking at students or teachers teachers teachers.
Because he does say he says a name. I don't know. You said you're watching.
But I said, you watch the closed caption. So you said, I know he says something about wanting somebody. He's like, Oh, maybe that's why you're so loony or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. It's Mr. Tierney, which I always assumed was a teacher. I don't think they would have files on students.
I mean, I guess they wouldn't call a student Mr Tierney. Well, I mean, I guess you could in a weird way. Well, I always got the impression he was looking at people at the school.
Because he's he's the boss of most of the teachers. So, yeah, it's clever. It's, you know, what he says is he's like, Oh, Mr. Tierney, a slight history of mental illness. The wonder is so fucked up.
Yeah.
Yeah, I totally recommend watching these movies with subtitles because you catch things that you either heard wrong. The one we watched it was a Blu-ray.
Yeah. And there was actually lyrics to the songs and some of the songs that I've known for 30 years or whatever. I was like, Oh, that's what they say in that line. So not only am I picking up lines for the movie.
I'm getting song lyrics right. Look at that. You're learning.
It's a it's a lousy endorsement for having a wife who has a hearing problem. Yeah, it really is. It's great. Thank you. Thank you for having a shitty year. I appreciate that.
So, all right. So jumping back to the plot, since we're already halfway through the movie, the students passed hours by talking, arguing. And at one point, smoking marijuana, except Allison, who does not smoke with the others.
Honestly, that was one of the parts that I thought was just ridiculous. The smell is not so much their smoking marijuana because I get kids did that. Now, in 1985, to me, smoking marijuana was equivalent of like snorting cocaine or doing crack.
Ah, marijuana, but that's another hearing right there. There's no way Vernon wouldn't smell that shit. There's just, there's no way that they would smoke up in an enclosed space like the library. I don't care where they are in it.
And he wouldn't notice to me that he never comes back. What? He never comes back after they do it.
No, there's no scene because at the end of the movie, that's why I was like, there's no scene of him coming and telling them to leave. They just start leaving at four.
That's a good point. So, but they wouldn't know that. They didn't know that he wasn't. He didn't say like, I know. There's no way they would do it.
Okay, that's, that's a fair explanation for how they didn't get caught. But that's like, what do they call it, plot armor, where it's like, it only worked because they wrote it into the script. You know, it's just, they wrote it. Yeah, no, that was.
There's no way there's no way they would smoke. I'm sorry. They just wouldn't. Because, like I said, Anthony Michael Hall is only in there for one time. Like, Emilie Estevez is in there. He doesn't want to be back.
He just wouldn't do it. None of them would do it. Why would you risk? That would be like, if you smoked marijuana in the school, that would be expulsion.
There's no way that they would like, oh, you're just going to come back and do that. Like, they would be kicked out. I mean, that's, that's a dumb, that whole scene doesn't make any sense to me.
Yeah, and then Emilie Estevez and the screams and the glass breaks. That's just kind of silly. And I think even John Hughes didn't like that. Like, that was a part he would have taken out.
He was a reminder of a line that I've always found funny that Amanda and I quote all the time. It's when they're talking, they're arguing about how Anthony Michael Hall's character is like, God, it took shop because, you know, you've seen the guys that take shop, you know, and.
And then he starts talking to vendor. He's like, do you realize without trigonometry, there would be no engineering and vendors like without lamps, there'd be no light.
I've always found that line.
Yeah, it's just, it's just, it's stupid, but it's fun. So that was one where, even though I've heard that line a hundred times. I laughed. Yeah.
I didn't know. I didn't realize until watching this time that this was the origin story for parkour.
That Emilie Estevez starts parkour after he smokes weed.
I didn't realize that either. Again, he jumps off the wall.
I didn't know about. Yeah, he does. I mean, he also vendor climbs the staircase at one point when he gets mad.
Yeah, this is, this is really just a parkour movie.
That's, that's what we're going to get out of this.
It doesn't hold up as a team angst, but it holds up as a parkour movie.
It is the best park.
Yeah, the I'll just stole this totally sold at this front.
They, yeah, it's the best parkour movie ever, so.
Yeah, I didn't get that. I need to watch it again apparently.
So my, my creepy Brad fact is.
Why is it creepy? Why is it creepy?
That's it. It's evolving.
Is the fact creepy or is it.
The creeper.
My, my, I have a Brad fact and then a Brad fact that is creepy and this is the creepy one.
John Hughes said that getting this film greenlit by Universal wasn't easy because the executives complained that they were no breasts, no party scene, no guys drinking beer or other things that they thought a teenage picture needed.
A teenage picture needed at the time.
No movies.
But you know, we're going to go ahead and film it anyway. Thank you.
Yeah.
Speaking of creep, the one thing we've already talked about were.
John Nelson.
It looks up.
Molleringwald skirt.
Do you think they actually filmed that? That's actually her.
Yes.
You think 16 or 17, some cameraman got down there and I would hope that that was a body double, but who the hell knows. Yeah, I didn't even think about it.
I didn't learn the difference from Amanda until Judd Nelson and Molly Ringwald's characters are kissing at the end and I was like, Oh, wow.
Yeah.
He's 25.
She's 16.
Technically, it's legal probably.
All right. So while you're looking that up, and I'm going to get back to the plot synopsis here.
Let's see. Gradually, they open up and reveal their secrets.
Claire has lots of experiences of peer pressure.
John comes from an abusive household job, Bender.
Bender comes from an abusive household.
Allison is a compulsive liar.
Andrew can't think for himself.
And Brian contemplated suicide over a bad grade.
He didn't contemplate it.
He tried to kill himself with a flare gun, which I have to admit, I laughed at.
He didn't know he didn't try to kill himself.
The fact that he was going to do it with a flare gun, because I'm like, he's just going to give himself a headache and burn his hair off.
But anyway, Oh, the crotch shot was a body double.
Okay.
I'm very pleased.
I'm happy to hear that.
That's good because you probably would have gotten illegal trouble otherwise.
What about.
I think you would kill yourself with a flare gun to the head.
I honestly don't know.
If we have any Hey, 20 listeners, any who are flare gun experts, let us know.
I don't know. I honestly don't know if a flare gun would kill you.
They come out pretty, I mean, I got to think.
Yeah, we'll see.
And I don't trust movies to show me accurately what flare guns do.
I've only heard a flare gun and GTA.
You should fire at a NPC sometimes see the kills.
That'll be a research project for next time.
All right. So then we have, they discover they all have four relationships with their parents because they're teenagers.
Claire's parents use her to get back at each other during arguments.
John's parent, they need to stop calling them John.
Benders parents physically and verbally abuse him as well as each other.
Allison's parents are neglectful.
Andrew's father pushes him to the limit, especially in wrestling and Brian's parents pressure him to earn the highest grades possible.
The students realize that despite their differences, they face similar problems.
And here's another part of this that I thought was bullshit was when they're like,
all teenagers hate their parents.
I don't agree with that. I don't either.
I didn't hate my parents as a teenager.
I didn't, I mean, I didn't agree with everything they said. I didn't, you know, I didn't hate them.
No, I didn't hate them. No, I just didn't want to be around them.
Yeah, I thought they were not smart, but yeah.
Yeah, every team, you know, you think your teenager, you think you know everything.
You think your parents don't understand, but that doesn't equate to hate.
Yeah, it is a strong word.
Yeah.
Everybody becomes their parents. I feel like there's some truth to that.
What, what grade do you think these are all supposed to be?
I would say juniors, maybe.
They're all you think?
I think sophomore, maybe. Yeah.
Freshly aged sophomore meat.
Yeah, but okay.
It wasn't a weird. I thought I fully, I thought it was weird that none of them drove there.
That they all got dropped off by their parents.
I mean, that was just.
Maybe that was just so you could see the parents to make like, why the parents had no.
Well, I mean, that just talked about the parents.
Okay, well, okay.
I will disagree because when Anthony Michael Hall's characters dropped off, you see that the mom's all about its grades.
When Allison's parents drop her off, they don't even acknowledge that she gets out of the car and she tries to look and they just drive off.
So it kind of gives you.
They say that again, they repeat everything you learn.
So I'm just, I just find it weird that like none of them drove.
I'm sure Claire, if she's a junior would have a car.
Oh, she probably had a BMW yet.
Right. So why wouldn't she have driven to school? Why would her parents?
I found that like, they didn't trust her to go because she skipped school for maybe they didn't want her to have a car there.
I don't know. Maybe that's part of the rules.
Your parents have a car in the parking lot during the time. I don't know.
And then I walked.
I mean, I mean, he walks. That's fun. But the other, I just, I was like, and like Amelia, I feel like, like, Ali Shee and Anthony Michael Hall are probably like sophomores. I feel like, and I feel like the rest are junior seniors.
And that's just kind of way, I just feel like they seem a little bit older. But so I would think that Amelia asked of us and Claire would, or, you know, I keep going back and forth between their characters in there.
But I feel like they would have driven.
Yeah, but whatever. I mean, that's, I mean, that's a good point. I never really thought about it. Yeah. Yeah.
I don't gain anything from them being drawn. I mean, yeah.
Yeah, it gives you a bit of an insight into what they're going to talk about later when it comes to their parents. You know, it shows you instead of tells you or whatever they always talk about that comes like making movies and shit.
So anyway, this is a movie. This is a movie largely of telling me. They don't show you. They're in the library the whole day of movie. So,
and honestly, that was the reason Amanda and I were talking about it. We were thinking you were going to say that about the movie that you didn't think there was enough stuff happening, which is why you didn't like it.
Obviously, you've said other things leading up to this, but I was wondering like, you know, Brad's not going to like it because it's a character study. It's a bunch of people for the most part sitting around talking and learning about each other.
No, but they're interesting characters. That's where I was where I was like, okay, this is a good movie. I think they're interesting characters and they do well on the development and the backstory and they do the vehicle of the how they get the conversation out to talk about.
I think it's pretty good because they are bored and they're going to sit there and talk all day because there's nothing to do right.
I think that's fine. But where I was getting that it's just like, I don't know, it's just so the stuff that they have them do, the little bit of action is ridiculous. They wouldn't have done it.
Yeah, you're saying is like, Bender would have gone off and they would just would have said and like screw you and sat in the library. He wouldn't have shown up.
No, I understand. I understand. But it's to get a move. I mean, to make a movie. A lot of times you have to kind of bend reality a little bit.
Matrix isn't real.
No, that one.
Right. Right. Right. I tried and I can, I've never been able to make a girl with a Barbie doll and a bolt of lightning like in weird science. That was bullshit. I nearly died trying to replicate that.
Anyway, moving on. So let's see, Claire gives Alice in a makeover, which sparks romantic interest from Andrew. I disagree. He started looking at her before that because when he's actually started talking to her, you could see that he found her interesting because he didn't know jack shit about her.
Yeah, before they started talking. I don't think the makeover I think because he doesn't say, wow, you're really pretty now. He's like, yeah, I'll talk to you because you're pretty.
Yeah, he's like, I can see your face. Yeah. Yeah. So I think that's a bit of that. That's accurate. Claire decides to break her quote unquote pristine innocence appearance by kissing john and giving him a hickey.
I don't think she gives him a hickey. I thought she was a kid.
Okay, here's the problem with this too. Yeah, go ahead, Brett. Well, you got a problem with what you got. You tell me your problem first. Okay, so my problem is, here's a guy who has treated her like shit this entire day.
Right.
She's going to go to the closet and make out with him.
First of all, I don't think she would do that. Second of all, is she's going to wind up in an abusive relationship if what the way he was treating her is what she wants to do.
Right. I mean, like he's, you know, the whole way. Let's see if we get the prom queen impregnated. I know he talks about raping her. Yeah. Yeah.
Dick through the whole movie and then she shows up. He's a fuck. He's a horrible character. Cool. You know, it's.
Well, it's the bad boys, bro. You know, the ladies love the bad boys.
He's he's scary. Yeah, he is. He's scary.
Yeah, she's going to come to, she's going to come to school once the, like in a few weeks and have a black eye. Yeah.
She is. He's a psychopath.
Watching that as a parent and, you know, being older, obviously, now that part to me was like, that should be a red flag for anybody who knows her because that is an easy way to get into numerous, if not at least one abusive relationships.
There's no problem with that whole scene. Yeah, that, that really. And again, that was not something I even thought about when I watched this as a kid.
Here's my, here's my problem. Mine's even simpler. It's a logistic. How the fuck did she get in that room?
That was why.
If she could get in, if she could get in, then why the hell didn't John go back in that way? Why didn't you go back to the ceiling?
I've never even thought about that. That is. And it makes it, and it makes no sense either. Why would she risk again, leaving the library to go see him when she's going to see him in like 15 minutes, or 30 minutes.
It's like, it's so sweet because then John Hughes's mind. It's romantic. But they could have just had that scene. They had the same damn scene at the end of the movie in front of the car.
I have that. It fucking stupid. Again, it's a stupid thing that happens in this movie, that nobody.
Breakfast club.
I'm starting to get really mad about this stupid movie.
And everybody loves it. And everybody remembers it fondly, and I did too, but
What if we're going to get into our opinions of it at the end? So let's, let's get through the little bit of the plot that's left here.
There's, there's a lot of the writing that is just creepy. Like, it makes me wonder what John Hughes
Grew it like when it was like growing up in his hall. What he would have been doing if he hadn't been writing movies for Hollywood.
I mean, or like what he traits his or treated his wife. I mean, it just, it raises a lot of questions.
I don't want a bad mouth to go. I don't know.
But I mean, the thing is, is that he did, he did like, you know, a bunch of movies with Molly Ringwald.
And at some point, you know, she got older and didn't want to be in T movies anymore.
And did he do pretty in pink as well?
I think so. Yeah, I think so.
But like they had a falling out because he wanted, like he called her his muse.
And didn't want to do T movies anymore. I wanted to try and like flex her acting abilities.
He got pissed off and like never spoke to her again.
Well, that's the adult way to handle it.
Yeah, I mean, it kind of gives you some insight into this guy's psyche.
Yeah.
Yeah, but what does that say about us that we all like these movies?
That we grew up in the 80s.
Yeah.
Well, we can talk about that at the end.
Although they suspect their new relationships will end along with their detention,
they believe their mutual experiences will change the way they look at their peers.
And that's actually, I find that found that part to be really interesting when they're like,
Yeah, we'll still be friends and Claire is like, no, we won't.
And she was being honest and they.
Yeah, they best tell the entire movie.
Yeah.
And I mean, she's right.
And she explains how she's right.
You know, you might be nice to him to his face, but then you're going to cut him up.
So you look cool in front of your friends and hell, I think we've all been guilty of that.
At one time or another.
I mean, it's right.
And that's the truth, but they they blast her.
And again, Bender is all over her and this is what in movie time, 10 or 15 minutes before she goes and kisses him.
Yeah.
And in real time, maybe a couple of hours.
Yeah.
So again, he is just bashing the hell out of her for being truthful.
And she's like, I like him even more now.
Yeah, he's like emotionally abusive.
He assaults her.
It's, and then he ends up with the girl.
He's a terrible character.
He is.
He's a fucking asshole.
None of them would talk to him.
Well, I wouldn't say he's a terrible character.
I think his character, he's a terrible person.
Okay.
The characters.
Yeah.
All right.
So we're on to the last paragraph here.
As the detention nears its end, the group requests that Brian complete the essay for everyone.
And John returns to the storage closet to fool Vernon into thinking he never left.
Brian leaves the essay in the library for Vernon to read after they leave.
As the students part ways and they don't even go into the whole thing where she shows up and kisses vendor.
Oh, she's no, they did already.
Yeah.
Real quick.
I guess I am wrong because he does.
He's not, they're not there, but he does go back in library because he grabs the letter.
But they're gone.
Yeah.
I mean, I feel like he could.
I feel like he would smell the marijuana smoke at that point.
Yeah.
And talk to them all on Monday and say they all have detention again.
Maybe that's for practice.
And also the books are all on the floor, the glass is broken up top.
I mean, yeah, there's a big hole in the ceiling where Bender fell through.
He's wanted to do a sequel.
Like of them older.
Oh, great.
I'm glad that didn't happen.
Yeah.
As the students part ways, Allison and Andrew kiss as do Claire and Bender.
Allison rips Andrew state championship patch from his jacket to keep.
Did she?
Yeah.
And Claire gives John one of her diamond earrings, which he puts on.
Again, it's Bender, not John.
Sorry.
Vernon reads the essay in which Brian states that Vernon has already judged who they are using stereotypes.
And that they think that he Vernon is crazy if he thinks they're going to tell him who they are.
So Brian correspondingly states in the letter that, quote, each of us is a brain.
An athlete, a basket case, a princess and a criminal.
Does that answer your question?
Unquote.
He signs off with the letter, he signs off the letter with sincerely yours, the breakfast
club.
And then bender does his arm thing, his famous arm.
The slow, the freeze for the eight.
That's so bad.
Now that trope is horrible.
The 80 freeze, the movies that freeze at the end.
And honestly, this is something I chatted about.
I think if they remade this movie, besides having to do something different with him putting,
you know, his head between Claire's legs.
I feel like at the end, it would have been more plausible if.
Bender had like apologized to Claire for being an asshole.
And then like, I'd like to be your friend on Monday and she had been like, okay.
Instead of them hooking up, because to me, that was just, there's no, yeah.
That would have been, that would have been a better for the whole thing.
If they just cut to Monday and they all just acknowledged each other slightly.
Yeah.
Bender needs some, some friends.
I mean, he's got friends, obviously, but he needs to know that these people aren't going to hate him for all the shit he has to deal with outside of school.
So with Molly Ringwald's character, it was just like, yes.
Yeah.
I accept your apology.
I would like to be your friend or try to be your friend or something.
I feel like that would be a better ending.
You know, the, the Emilio Estebes and Ali Sheedy hookup, that was kind of cute.
Yeah.
But that doesn't need to happen right now.
That could have just been, hey, I'd like to see you again.
Yes, I'd like that too. It said they're like, well, you, it's almost like, like, we'll go steady now.
Like it's so fucking.
Yeah.
It's a bit much.
Right.
Yeah. And that's to imply also that none of them have like other girlfriend or boyfriend.
Or any other, like, I mean, that all split all happen to be the five people all, all happen to be single.
And also the vendor mentions that earlier.
So she, again, you know, she's entering into this potential relationship where not only is he maybe just going to keep being an asshole towards her, but she's going to be one of many.
I've never been part of a harem before.
That's the best I can do.
Yeah.
She wants to be part of a harem.
She's like, I've never.
Okay.
So here's, here's a, here's a pressing question.
Who's worse?
Bender.
Jake.
From 16 candles.
Oh.
Oh, Bender.
I think there's more potential for harm from Bender.
Yeah.
I think that Jake's rich.
So that solves it.
Would you rather be in a relationship in a mansion or should you relationship in a single one?
So Jake.
So all comes down to money.
Yeah.
Money can make sure it can make shitting that's easier to live with.
I think that, like, you know, Bender was dealt, has been, you know, a really terrible hand and he is the way he is because of his parents.
But I mean, he's saying the same thing about Jake.
He's not way because of his parents.
Vendor needs therapy.
Vendor needs a lot of things.
A lot of therapy.
Drink that Allison has, apparently, who she likes, she jokes about sleeping with.
Yeah.
It's not a joke.
She lies.
Well, I mean, she does that to, to egg Claire on again.
Everybody gang it up on Claire.
We need to stop watching these movies.
It truly is ruining my childhood because I, I loved this movie as a kid.
And I mean, do we need to, should we go into it now?
Or opinions?
Wait, I do want to, like, something I was going to mention about.
I'm confused by who knows who, like, they don't even know each other.
Like, some of them don't even know each other, but then they do.
Like, immediately, as opposed to those who Bender is, right?
Well, did you know that kid in high school?
I knew that kid in high school.
We knew their name, but didn't know.
Okay.
You seen him in the hallway and you know to avoid him, but you don't know anything about him.
Right, but that's probably the time they've been in the same room together.
But Molly Greenwald and Emilio, as to his characters know each other because they talk about going to the party together.
Are, are not together, but are they both going to the same part?
So they obviously are in the same circle.
I would say that they know each other and they're, they're probably acquaintances.
I don't know if they're friends, but they're definitely acquaintances.
Anthony Michael Hall's character doesn't know anybody because he hangs out with all the geeks and nerds.
But doesn't, but Bender says, I thought he's, I thought he calls him Brian right in the beginning.
Like, he knows him.
He's like, that's Brian, sir.
I know who he is, but they're not friends.
Who?
Well, no, they're not friends, but how the fuck would he know who he was?
He calls him Brian right away.
Bender does, doesn't he?
Or no, I'm sorry.
No, Emilio estimates does.
He's got a name.
What's your name?
That's right.
He does say that for a haircut.
And I mean, Allison at one point says she has no friends.
So I think everybody knows her is that weird girl, but nobody knows her.
And everybody knows Bender because of his rep, but they know to avoid him.
So I feel like, yeah.
Emilio Chavez and Molly Ringwald's characters hang out in the same social circles.
Maybe they're not really friends friends, but they know each other.
They talk.
They hang out with the same people.
Yeah.
They would, they would be like be in a, in a group of people together and it wouldn't be weird.
But he else doesn't know each other.
Definitely.
So here's my Brad fact before we really get into it.
The actor that plays the janitor Carl.
Uh huh.
Capital.
Uh.
He says his name.
All right.
Um, was joking with the, uh, the actors and said, uh, not to overdo their intensity.
Like, you know, John Nelson is a method actor and like not to overdo it.
And he's laughing.
That Martin Sheen was suffered a serious heart attack while filming apocalypse now.
He didn't know that Emilio Estebes is Shane's son.
So Emilio Estebes was evidently really pissed off at the remark.
And then capital is felt bad because he found out that Martin Sheen was Estebes's father.
Why would he be pissed?
He was just telling him something that really I don't know.
Okay.
Um.
Seems like an overreaction.
I mean, but.
Hey, did you notice in the movie, like when it starts when they're doing like the opening sequence of the different pictures of the high school and all it.
And then they share the picture of the man of the year that's Carl.
Yeah.
Did you guys not pick up on that?
No, I, I pointed that out to Brock.
I'm like, that's Carl.
I knew that.
I actually knew that.
I had seen that.
So I was like, oh man, he was like a really good student at one point and became the quote unquote lowly janitor.
Yeah.
I think he's happy as the janitor.
I think he's maybe the best character in the movie.
Or at least the best person in the movie.
But evidently, Martin Sheen and capillos were in the West Wing together for an episode.
And capillos have like actually said something to Martin Sheen, like, apologize for doing that.
And then Martin Sheen thought it was funny.
Oh, good.
I'm glad somebody had a sense of humor about it.
So that's my broad fact.
What episode of the West Wing, because I'm listening to the podcast where they're going through the West Wing.
I have to find it.
Just started in 1999.
And he told Martin.
All right, it was first season.
Talk about something doesn't doesn't hold water.
The West Wing's terrible.
We never watched it.
I loved it when it first came out, but it is not all.
When they're talking when he's looking through the files and he, you know, he offers the bride Carl to not say anything.
And he's talking to vendor about, you know, I'm not going to risk this job.
His, he says he makes $31,000 a year as the principal.
It's adjusted for inflation is $70,000.
That's a pretty good salary for somebody working in the school system, especially if he gets summers off.
Yeah, I could see him doing anything to avoid losing that job.
Yeah, but principles don't get summers off.
Do they not?
What do they do?
They're there.
They have other responsibilities.
Yeah, since the principal, that's all like the main, it's a, it's a reduced schedule, but they're there.
Okay, that's still a good salary for somebody in the school system.
But of course it's, it's what?
Shimmer Illinois.
Yes.
So, yeah, it's.
Yeah.
But I don't know.
I think it's distant principles here at a high school make over a hundred, make six figures.
Do they?
Yeah, I think so.
Yeah.
We could look it up.
It's all.
Yeah.
I mean, it's great.
Yeah, it's all public, but administration, I think, makes pretty good because again, it is a full year.
Well, I mean, a teacher's really a fool too.
They get paid.
It just depends on how they.
Yeah.
They don't get paid shit.
Yeah.
That's we're getting off the tangent.
I'll go ahead and start off with my, my, my reaction.
The movie to me has some problem points that don't hold up.
It's got some aspects of it, which like you pointed out, Brad, are just kind of silly, but I enjoyed it.
I liked it.
It's not a perfect movie by any means.
It's better than 16 candles, I think.
Yeah.
I'm really sure that I enjoyed it as kind of a character study.
I thought that the characters were realistic in what they were dealing with.
Of course, they're still stereotyped, even so, you know, not all sports dads are pushing their kids, you know, to the max, not all parents that are abusive are as abusive as vendors, not all rich parents use their kids to get back at one another.
There are probably lots of rich parents that love each other and love their kids.
And the idea that, you know, you have to hate your parents if you're a teenager, some of that's kind of goofy, but it's not action packed, but I liked it.
I would say I still enjoyed it.
And looking at it as an adult and realizing that, you know, it's a movie.
It's not trying to, you know, like 16 candles.
There's no way that party would have happened.
There's no way they wouldn't have, you know, and then breakfast club.
There's no way they would have been smoking up and wouldn't have gotten caught.
I mean, there are a lot of things that are implausible, but I still enjoyed it.
One of the things I thought was really interesting is considering how much, like, sexual assault goes, like, you know, like the way Bender just torments, verbal assault.
Yeah, I mean, it really touches her, except for, you know, putting his head between her legs.
But the line that Allison has where they were talking about, like, they're pressuring Claire to answer if she's a virgin or not.
And Allison's like, it's a trap. If you say no, you're approved.
If you say yes, you're a slut.
That's, I mean, like, that's, that's legit. Yeah.
Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah.
There are some definite good, like, conversations about kids and the way they all have different types of pressure and they none of them think that the other people do.
Like, they all right.
They think Claire has this perfect life.
And she goes, you don't know what the pressure I have from the, she's got a peer pressure and keeping up, essentially, like, keeping up with the Jones's type thing.
And then, you know, they all have these different, you know, Amelia Esteves has this, you know, athletic, that's this whole thing.
So there's the pressure there to always be the best and he talks about how he would just hope he'd get injured.
So then it would all be over, you know, and Anthony Michael Hall is the grade.
So yeah, it is.
They do a good, that's a good sequence where they're talking about.
And it's a realistic one where the kid, they don't realize they think they're the ones who have kind of pressure.
They don't realize that everyone does. It's just manifesting the way it's itself.
So, I think it holds up with, you know, there are some serious problems, but I mean.
Yeah.
And I guess one way to look at is what I said earlier is that if you remade this movie, and maybe this is a way we can start looking at it like if this movie was remade, the scene with bender between your legs would have to be changed.
I feel like bender couldn't, I would reduce the amount of just verbal assault that bender has against Claire, and I wouldn't have everybody wind up as a couple at the end.
Yeah, I just think that's a bit much.
The only other thing that I like I can say that I was, I was shot to watching it as an adult is like how often Vernon puts his hands on those kids.
And he like shows immediately less of those. Yeah, he's, yeah, he's basically getting a fight with bender. Yeah, I mean, he, I think I would hope maybe that in today's society that if you laid your hands on somebody else's kid and like that.
Something would happen to you.
And that's something that I feel like has changed. I feel like if now, if a kid in high school came and said the assistant principal assaulted me, they would look into it in the 80s.
They would just especially bender, a kid like bender said it, and blow it off.
Depends on the kid. I think it really still depends on what you get now.
Oh, come on, he's a respected guy. Yeah, he wouldn't do that.
Hey, I've got another point that's bullshit about the movie that I want to bring in.
Well, we're thinking is, okay, we've talked about how we still like the movie. You've already alluded Brad to the fact that you think it's shit.
So here's, but I'm saying here's another here's another plot hole in it. Yeah, again, you remember the scene where he goes out and he takes like the doors propped open to begin with right in the library.
And then bender goes over and he takes a screw out to.
Unpropped the door. Yeah, if you look at the fucking door. There's one of those foot peg things on the bottom of it. That's how you prop the fucking thing up. They can't even get that thing right.
Like Vernon's that just shows a Vernon's idiot. He doesn't know how doors work. Well, no, but like that's the door.
It's so stupid. Then it's also that, but he obviously did it before because he kind of eludes to the Saturday before the same thing happened and he's like, you know, there was a prop on the door.
Right.
Or he knows it.
Yeah, he could just prop the other one open. Yeah.
But there's a kind of a funny scene where he's getting that he gets a million asked us to help him and then they put the thing in there and they're like, that's a fire has it.
And then he's right. And he's like, what are you doing? Get that out of there.
And that's another line that I quote all the time is screw's fall out of the time. The world's an imperfect place.
So there's a lot of quotable lines.
And yeah, but that's I mean, there are lots of things like that. I mean, you can watch almost every movie and be like, well, they could have done this and then but what they wound up.
It wasn't funny, even if it wasn't right.
But for a movie that I suppose it's more the movie is reliant on the whole character.
The interaction with them, the whole teen angst the whole bit about telling like showing that everybody has pressure. Everybody is under pressure feels they're under pressure.
It's you guys are all so all in this, you know, they're you're similar and even though you don't seem to be right.
But the movie has all the all the extra stuff is stupid. It makes the movie stupid now.
I just don't I can't. That's where I was like, I was like, I was up and down with it. I was like, okay, like I said, the scene where they're all talking about, you know, they're pressure.
I was a great scene, but then they'll go and there's no way they would leave the thing and go help him get his marijuana and then smoke up because they've got too much.
They just talked about how much pressure they have.
Yeah, and how Anthony Michael Hall's characters worry about his grades and immediately invested as doesn't want to miss a meet and yeah smoking marijuana.
That's a good way to miss a meet if they catch you.
And here's the other thing. Molly Ringwald could never do that trick.
With the boobs. That trick is that shake.
Because because it's it's she can't there's no way I don't think anyone can do it.
I don't think you can bend that way. I don't think I don't think no, and you have to have the right like size breast to keep the thing like it was you touch it and it would.
I don't I don't breast.
That was John Hughes that was John Hughes idea of like an awesome booby trick is if they can put lipstick on with it in their cleavage.
So I know I did not.
I don't like this movie anymore. I think it's dumb.
You really are ruining your childhood.
No, it's not it's fine. I mean, it.
I just I really had a hard time like this. It's just so.
The main plot devices. They're just like, I don't know. It just doesn't.
I look like I said, I couldn't finish it. I couldn't finish the movie. It's an hour and like 30 minutes and I got to an hour 15 and I was like, I don't want to watch this anymore.
I'm so I know how this reading.
Well, I'm like, I'm so frustrated with this. And then they scoot to do a movie and walk out of your basement and do the bender arm thing.
Yeah, because that would have been awesome. I played.
Yeah.
Don't forget it. I mean, yeah.
So now I just, I, it could have, like, why have, why have them hooked everybody hook up? I don't understand that part at all.
Because it's the 80s movie.
Yeah, like I said, I felt that was a bit much. I felt if it was done again, you leave that part out.
Have them be friends. Your idea was a good one. Like show Monday morning, they all kind of nod to each other and they all kind of smile and then because they set that up, they said they wouldn't. And if they did, then it would have been great.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's, that's fair. So like I said, if they redid it, they need to change some things, but they wouldn't have to change quite as much like the, like the entire last act of 16 candles would have to be changed if they redid it.
Great out.
And, you know, we'll, we'll, we'll do something different instead.
So there wasn't any of that at least, but.
Alright, so Amanda and I thought it held up reasonably well and Brad, you think it sucks.
It does not, this does not.
Three weeks running that the world's greatest athlete is still the best movie ever made.
Right.
I do have a funny story about this movie about when I thought about like kind of had the idea for this podcast.
I was out one time at my way.
And I, it was a friend of a friend I got into a discussion. First time I ever met this woman.
My way, I'm sorry, my way is a bar near my house that I go to a lot. And I was at, after drinking a few beers, people and then a friend came up and she had a friend with her and her and I started talking.
And we first started talking about top gun, which I won't say where I went on that yet, but that's a to be that that's coming up.
It's on the list. Yeah, we really wanted to do top gun around this time because the new Maverick movie is going to come out. We're going to kind of do like a double header with it, but that got pushed back to December. So probably be a while.
But no, so I talked about, I said, well, I said, and I had just watched 16 or a breakfast club recently, and she mentioned it.
I was like, that movie doesn't isn't a good anymore. She goes, what do you mean?
I said, I said, there's a whole scene where Molly Ringwald gets sexually assaulted.
How can you say that's okay. And she's like, she didn't get sexually assaulted because she liked it.
And I just said, yes, it was like sober woman said that. No, she had a bit still, but still. I was like, I said, what did you just, I was like, are you serious?
And she goes, yeah, it's okay. Yeah, I don't think she liked it. Yeah, I don't think she liked it at all. I don't even think you could look at that scene and say that you think she might like it.
But that's what I kind of realized, like, I was like, Oh, wait, this might be a good act. Like, to have this. Yeah, it was funny that my friend Jim was there and he's like, Oh, boy, here's Brad, he's going off on his rant.
I feel like everybody listening to the podcast is the same thing when we get to the end of it. Oh, here goes Brad.
I know, I know, like I said, I mean, I'm sure you're just harsher than us. That's fine. It's okay.
Like I said, I got a, I got a lecture the other night from a friend about I was too hard on night court. So I'm sure. Well, I would disagree with that. Yes.
Well, I mean, we'll have to have him on to retort it, I guess. I don't know. He wants to. He wants some airtime. He wants to give somebody to our Patreon account. I'd be happy to give him a dollar a minute.
You're doing great. I am. I got a paper night court. Yeah. So, yeah. All right. Well, that's a good fault. That's elite. We do have a Patreon now. Everybody wants that.
So, well, we'll quite put a little bow on this. There's the Breakfast Club. Thank you, everybody, for listening. And now for the social media stuff that I don't.
Wait, wait, I do have one. Why do they call themselves the Breakfast Club? They don't have breakfast. They should be called the lunch club. They have lunch together.
Do you really want to know? Yeah, I really do.
John Hughes, one of his friends, sons, evidently got detention a lot, and they called themselves the Breakfast Club because they meet in the morning. Yep, they'd end up in detention. I really summer you actually do go in at seven o'clock in the morning for detention and they would have breakfast.
And so they started calling him so like it was a breakfast club and John, he was liked it.
Didn't have him have fucking breakfast in the movie dumbass Christ.
Well, that makes some sense, but it's still kind of goopy. But anyway, they could have just been there a few hours. They could have just had to go there on Saturday breakfast Saturday morning.
It could have been Christ. I mean,
if that is true. And he knew that. Why the fuck did he just do it that way? Why did he make this bullshit thing of all day Saturday that nobody does?
He needed enough time to have, you know, vendor fall in love with Claire and vice versa, and for him to fall through the ceiling and for them to run through the hallway. Okay, that part's funny too. Oh, it is. I like that part. Yeah, anyway, so.
I honestly don't know if there's I'd be curious if there has ever been a school that had a nine hour detention on the Saturday. That's insane.
I also want to know how big is that fucking school where they're running around like they have like four different ways to get around him as as the vice pencils walking back from.
Yeah, I have no idea like that was I was like, come on, like, I know that was the montage sequence of them running, but it's a clever sequence and it's fun to watch. But yeah, I mean, how many ways could they possibly go.
But anyway, we're getting into, okay, we're getting back into the movie. I know we're trying to end it. I just have so many things I have the problem with. I have so many things.
Take three social media.
Somebody say some Brad's the one that runs social. No, yeah. Okay, so we have Facebook page, you can find us by googling. Does it hold up. Look for pinky pie. That's where we are. We do have a patreon. I don't know.
Go to patreon.com and search for does it hold up again look for pinky pie.
In a moment, you can give on patreon in general. Is it a dollar. We are levels. Yeah, a dollar a month. Well, yeah, just in general. Like, can you, you can't give 50 cents on patreon, Kenny. I don't like if you're, well, our lowest level is a dollar a month.
So you get four, you just 12 dollars. That'll pay for night court.
I'll say Christmas card if you pay for you obviously didn't look at the page because I did put that in there on the levels. I had a really, really long week recording this damn episode right now.
We're doing this for fun. Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, no. Yeah, we have Twitter, our Twitter handle is at hold does and still not on Instagram. We're friends are our friends are grinder.
Oh, we're on grinder.
Yeah. Yeah, so I was on grinder. Thank you. Nice rock. Anyway, so, I didn't hear you. Would you? I said, at hold me up.
Anyway, on that note. Thank you for everyone who listened. Thank you all. You know, however many I'm going to stop making jokes about the number because it gets old.
Yeah, part two of Molly Ringwald me. There's two more coming because there's four weeks a May. And I know that because I look at calendars. So, thank you all for listening.
Just five weekends of this one though, but we missed one.